i mean the republicans won't touch taxes and the democrats -- >> we just trouched taxes. the sequestration touching the fence. at some point it's great rhetoric but not's at. >> also discretionary spending is at its lowest since 1953 and under this president we have addressed spending cuts. >> no, we have touched -- >> let's talk about -- >> discretionary, mandatory, medicare, medicaid, veterans' benefits are where the explosion is. >> aging population. >> the administration, the president has gone to the table for a grand bargain several times and seems that much of the republican caucus in the house has not accepted some of the sacred cows that the add manager put on the table and the president talks about this in the interview in detail. >> i come back to the rule of life. a dollar spent on "a," cannot be spent on "b." why discretion hear spending is so low because nondiscretionary spend something crowding out the marine corps, scientific -- we'll be in an assisted living home with an army. >> you've given me the perfect segue with army and marines to talk about what h